This video by no means represents all Iranians in the Diaspora, but it is, nevertheless, telling of some.
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This video by no means represents all Iranians in the Diaspora, but it is, nevertheless, telling of some.
A statement I agree with in full:
“Both Hamas and Fath have disqualified themselves from leading the Palestinian national movement. And Islamic Jihad is too religiously kooky.”
This is a low point for Palestinian resistance, no doubt.
The idiot Arash said about Ahmadinejad:
” Instead they justify a true dictator while it completely contradicts with the same values they use to criticize Israel. This is just amazing to me.”
I didnt realize dictators had limited terms!! This guy is TRULY an idiot. Didn’t he grow up in Iran? WOuldnt he know that Iranian Presidents have limited terms? Wouldnt you AT LEAST hope he would refer to Khamenei as the dictator?? ANOTHER EXAMPLE OF ARASH’S LEARNING DISORDER, DOESNT EVEN UNDERSTAND THE MOST BASIC POLITICS OF THE COUNTRY HE GREW UP IN. PATHETIC.
Gays should be hanged, says Iranian ministerDominic Kennedy
Homosexuals deserve to be executed or tortured and possibly both, an Iranian leader told British MPs during a private meeting at a peace conference, The Times has learnt.
Mohsen Yahyavi is the highest-ranked politician to admit that Iran believes in the death penalty for homosexuality after a spate of reports that gay youths were being hanged.
President Ahmadinejad, questioned by students in New York two months ago about the executions, dodged the issue by suggesting that there were no gays in his country.
Britain regularly challenges Iran about its gay hangings, stonings and executions of adulterers and perceived moral criminals, Foreign and Commonwealth Office (FCO) papers show.
The latest row involves a woman hanged this June in the town of Gorgan after becoming pregnant by her brother. He was absolved after expressing his remorse. Britain said that this demonstrated the unequal treatment of men and women in law and breached Iran’s pledge to restrict the death penalty to the most serious crimes.
A series of reported executions of gays, including two underage boys whose public hanging was posted on the internet, has alarmed human rights campaigners.
The Pet Shop Boys dedicated Fundamental, their Grammy-nominated album, to Mahmoud Asqari and Ayad Marhouni, who were hanged in Justice Square in Mashhad in 2005. Graphic photographs of the execution of the youths, who were under 18 when arrested, were released by the Iranian Students News Agency.
Gay rights groups in Britain, such as Outrage!, accuse Iran of cloaking executions for homosexuality with bogus charges for more serious crimes.
Under the Freedom of Information Act, the FCO released papers to The Times about the death penalty being used in Iran for homosexuality, adultery and sex outside marriage.
Minutes taken by an official describe a meeting between British and Iranian MPs at the Inter-Parliamentary Union, a peace body, in May. When the Britons raised the hangings of Asqari and Marhouni, the leader of the Iranian delegation, Mr Yahyavi, a member of his parliament’s energy committee, was unflinching. He “explained that according to Islam gays and lesbianism were not permittedâ€, the record states. “He said that if homosexual activity is in private there is no problem, but those in overt activity should be executed [he initially said tortured but changed it to executed]. He argued that homosexuality is against human nature and that humans are here to reproduce. Homosexuals do not reproduce.â€
Nicole Pichet, a researcher who also took notes of the gathering, told The Times that the discussion began with British MPs discussing the underage gay hangings. Mr Yahyavi responded by saying homosexuality was to blame for a lot of diseases such as Aids.
Ann Clwyd, the Labour MP and head of Britain’s delegation, said yesterday: “It is of great concern that these attitudes persist and we made it clear what we felt.â€
Iran, Mauritania, Saudi Arabia, Sudan, the United Arab Emirates, Yemen and Nigeria apply the death penalty for homosexuality, according to the International Lesbian and Gay Association.
Hanging Gays: Can anyone expect anything less from an Islamic Republic? I mean, this is like having a Jewish state in Palestie and not expecting ethnic cleansing, massacre, mass detention, and apartheid to maintain its existence.
“Jewish state in Palestie and not expecting ethnic cleansing, massacre, mass detention, and apartheid to maintain its existence.”
So are you implying that the fact that the government is acting that way is because of its “Jewish” nature?
Are you implying that Judaism has to practice all of those to exist?
Wow, anonymous, that was a pathetic statement. ANY state in Palestine to be created that is insistent on being either Jewish, Christian, Egyptian, Iranian, anglo-saxon, etc. would HAVE to displace the native Palestinian population and oppress it in order to achieve their gains. I mean, if i want to set up a majority Coptic state in california, what do you think im going to be doing to those living there right now? What am I going to want to do if I launch wars and acquire more territory with people in Nevada? Am I going to take them in with the land, or expel them from the land and colonize it with Copts? Try to think a little rationally for once, it wont hurt.
“a Jewish state in Palestie”; if you would have said the Jewish state, we would have known what you were talking about. But you refered to it as “A” Jewish state.
Ok, that was dumb. On both our parts.
Arash the Occupation Soldier, please let me remind you that you are forbidden from blogging here until you apologize to the blog’s viewers for excessive use of poor and lowly language. Until you do so, you are not welcome as you are on TIME OUT. Now be good and follow instructions.
LOL!!! Please Arash, Please apologize. I want to hear your little theory on Irans oil money going to the Columbia. I mean, that must have been why Ahmadinejad was treated so well, right??
“As for Columbia allowing this moron to give a speech, I am sure all the oil money that you got did not have any affect on your decision. I don’t think Columbia agree to have this monkey without any sort of monetary assistance from IRI.”
LOL!! I wont even pretend to ask Arash for proof on this one!!
Arash are you really in law school? Jesus christ America is seriously the nicest country in the world to give people like you opportunities to study here. I think Arash being a law student and saying this kind of crap is worse than Ahmadinejad being elected (which has a proper explanation).
Columbia also said they’d invite the fuhrer…..Arash must have enjoyed that
I don’t get it. There is no real reason for him to claim that Iran gave money to Columbia. This brings a lot of press to Columbia, and Bollinger saved face by calling him a petty dictator. Why would there need to be money from Iran, and where is there any evidence for that? I just dont see the purpose of claiming such things, and, frankly, he just looks incredibly stupid when he’s called out on it.
No matter what topic Pouya posts, the multiple comments from : ) hijack the topic to the never-ending childish quarrel between him and Arash about the Israeli/Palestinian hostilities This obsession with a single issue is really becoming tiresome and boring. Let’s face it guys, the Israeli/Palestinian issue is not the central human cause – no matter how important it may be to you personally. The audience here is getting tired of your repeated interjection of the single-minded obsession — monopolizing and overshadowing any other issue.
Going back to Pouya’s original post and his video clip about finding Iran on a small map, it reminded me of Jay Leno’s “Jaywalking†series on his Tonight Show, such as: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LUmviuceomk
I often wonder what is the purpose of these “Jaywalking†clips on his show? Is he trying to show how stupid some people are? Does he bother to show the number of people who actually come up with the right answers – compared to those who do not have a clue? How much truth does Jay edit out to come up with a mere “entertaining†clip? I also wonder why those who are supposedly “dumb†bother to volunteer to be videoed and make a fool of themselves in front of the camera.
If and when Pouya makes a post about the Israeli/Palestinian issue, I’d rather hear a discussion between Noam Chomsky and Benjamin Netanyahu – rather than two kids arguing and pointing fingers at each other, saying “you are ugly and fat, and your mom dresses funnyâ€.
Gentlemen. May I please ask you to stick to the OP’s subject matter, without hijacking/diverting the original post to your “single issue obsessionâ€. Thanks.
Curious Joe, if you think fabricating history, not providing sources for claims, or not having any basic knowledge on a topic yet holding fanatical views with no evidenc to back up your strong opinions is “childish”, then so be it. But these are central questions regarding not just the Israeli Palestinian question, but the study of the Middle East in particular, and standards of serious scholarship in general. Now, most of the comments on this thread actually have to do with Iran, but the comparison I made with Palestine was challenged and I addressed that challenge. Get over yourself, if you want to have a conversation, then post something interesting for people to comment on.
Now, on your last post, I sort of see where youre going with it. I mean, if we REALLY want to know how knowledgeable Iranians in the diaspora in the US (LA/OC in particular) are about where Iran is on a map, then you take a sort of simple randomn sample, see how many can do it, and then see how prevalent the ignorance is. We dont know, this was, as you mentioned, just one of those jaywalking type things
And ill post what I want, get over it, get a personality.
: ) said:
“if you want to have a conversation, then post something interesting for people to comment on”
But this is not my blog to post “something interesting”. This is Pouya’s blog. I would not dare to push everyone away in a party and jump at the middle, when the photographer is taking pictures, so that I dominate at the middle of each photo (like some young egocentric men would do — thinking that they are so wonderful looking !!).
As a mere participant and a commentator in Pouya’s blog, I am not trying to “get a personality”. As such, I follow the protocol by being civilized — sticking to Pouya’s subject matter, expressing an opinion on that subject, and not going on a tangent to another subject — arguing with a third party that I may have a beef with.
Oh well. As they say: Different strokes for different folks!!
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